You still haven't understood what I'm saying.It is necessary for Christ to be
preached in order for His saving work to become ours by faith. You clearly agree
with this.Thus, the Word saves you. Paul says it saves you. Peter says it saves
you.So obviously, they are adding something to salvation--according to your
logic.Because when Lutherans say that Baptism saves--in the same sense that the
Word saves--you say they are adding to the work of Christ. We no more add to the
work of Christ than Paul, Peter, and you when all three agree that it is
necessary for the word to be preached, and that the word of Christ gives
salvation.I'm glad to debate all the other points we're talking about here on
the basis of God's word, but I want to make sure you see this point above before
we go any further.I'm sorry you think it's rude that I don't read all of your
posts, but I kind of think that it's rude that you presume to call the pure
Gospel all sorts of names without even clearly understanding it.The other
arguments about free will we can talk about later. But first, do you understand
that the Word is a means of grace--that is to say, that you cannot have faith in
Christ's blood without the preaching of the good news? And if so, do you
understand how it is hypocritical to accuse Lutherans of adding the work of
baptism to the cross, when you (and Peter and Paul in the bible) insist that the
preaching of God's Word saves?
I don't believe a person needs to be preached to to be saved or to hear the gospel. One can read His word and understand the simplicity of the gospel if they are open. Also the people who do not have the gospel are judged based on the knowledge they have, whether they have rejected what little they have. I have already went through this. I Tim. 3:15 says that people had the knowledge since childhood that leads to salvation... Eph. 5 says that the people hardened their heart, not that God did. James separates faith from works (most religious people know of those scriptures)...
Regardless, the preaching is a work which I do not do it to get saved. Someone else does, and then I get saved. I did not do the work of preaching.
Also, Scripture NOWHERE teaches that faith is a "work". John 6:28, people ask what works they can do of God and Jesus corrects them... John 6: 29 "This is the work OF GOD that you believe in Him whom He has sent." How much more clear can one get than that? So, God calls everyone, but only the person who chooses to come, receives the free gift of salvation.
At best, the Word of God brings the message of salvation to a person but it is the blood of Christ which saves them. Faith is not a work and preaching that leads to salvation is a work of someone else. I am still preaching the cross of Christ and nothing else. Baptism is you getting into the water...
John 12:32 Jesus says He draws ALL men to Him, so why aren't all men saved? Because they have the free will to say "no thankyou, not today" or "No thankyou, I've got things under control"